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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point, Mark.  I would wonder if it is legal as well.  Anyone can take pictures at the zoo, but if they found it on a stock site, and could prove it, they could start legal actions; they might not win, but it would be very expensive to find out, unfortunately.  I think that I&#039;ll just avoid the place.  There are many, many, many places to photograph without such restrictions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point, Mark.  I would wonder if it is legal as well.  Anyone can take pictures at the zoo, but if they found it on a stock site, and could prove it, they could start legal actions; they might not win, but it would be very expensive to find out, unfortunately.  I think that I&#8217;ll just avoid the place.  There are many, many, many places to photograph without such restrictions!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often wondered about the legality of such policies, given that any joe schmoe can also take pictures at the zoo.   I know there is no legal ground if it is considered a public place - but zoos may be considered private property perhaps. (?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often wondered about the legality of such policies, given that any joe schmoe can also take pictures at the zoo.   I know there is no legal ground if it is considered a public place &#8211; but zoos may be considered private property perhaps. (?)</p>
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		<title>By: Intern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very nice shot..tyhe dragonfly image is indeed remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice shot..tyhe dragonfly image is indeed remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sidney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, this is insane! 
By the way, great pictures!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, this is insane!<br />
By the way, great pictures!</p>
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		<title>By: earl</title>
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		<dc:creator>earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they make the on the site determination of &quot;amateur&quot; or &quot;professional&quot; by the photo gear they carry there&#039;s going to be real problems. Today&#039;s amateur often has better gear then many professions did a few years ago.

I agree with you...follow the money.  It&#039;s often about greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they make the on the site determination of &#8220;amateur&#8221; or &#8220;professional&#8221; by the photo gear they carry there&#8217;s going to be real problems. Today&#8217;s amateur often has better gear then many professions did a few years ago.</p>
<p>I agree with you&#8230;follow the money.  It&#8217;s often about greed.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for chiming in, Wren.  I find it amazing, and rather disheartening, all of the ways that people/corporations try to constrain photographer&#039;s rights.  One such thing that I read in The Photographer&#039;s Legal Guide was there was actually a company that tried to trademark a tree!  There is an often photographed lone cypress tree on 17 Mile Drive in California.  There have been a few failed legal attempts to get this tree, which none of them created, trademarked so that photographers would not be able to profit from it unless they pay a fee.  Amazing.

I&#039;m glad that the Asheboro Zoo has not fallen to such greed.  I would happily share my pictures with them for credit.  No problem! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for chiming in, Wren.  I find it amazing, and rather disheartening, all of the ways that people/corporations try to constrain photographer&#8217;s rights.  One such thing that I read in The Photographer&#8217;s Legal Guide was there was actually a company that tried to trademark a tree!  There is an often photographed lone cypress tree on 17 Mile Drive in California.  There have been a few failed legal attempts to get this tree, which none of them created, trademarked so that photographers would not be able to profit from it unless they pay a fee.  Amazing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that the Asheboro Zoo has not fallen to such greed.  I would happily share my pictures with them for credit.  No problem! <img src='http://www.paullesterphoto.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wren</title>
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		<dc:creator>wren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a librarian, I can expound for hours on kafkaesque intellectual property laws. The basic operating principle seems to be that the side with more lawyers has all the rights. An interesting variation on &quot;them that has the gold makes the rules.&quot;

Nonetheless, I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; the dragonfly-on-lion photo and am glad you are not barred from shooting locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a librarian, I can expound for hours on kafkaesque intellectual property laws. The basic operating principle seems to be that the side with more lawyers has all the rights. An interesting variation on &#8220;them that has the gold makes the rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I <i>love</i> the dragonfly-on-lion photo and am glad you are not barred from shooting locally.</p>
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